Dr. Taylor Alison Swift just received an honorary doctorate in fine arts from New York University, which her partner Joe Alwyn called “an incredible honor.” He’s absolutely right—if an honorary degree weren’t an honor, it would just be a degree!

Promoting his new Hulu show Conversations With Friends, Alwyn (who might or might not be engaged to the singer) was asked to comment on Swift’s endorsement of the series and her recent honor. So his response—“an incredible honor, it’s absolutely amazing”—could also mean that having Swift as a fan is an honor (which it is) and that it’s absolutely amazing (again, yes). 

Anyway, you can watch him talk about that, and a cat who kind of looks like him, here:

Addressing the crowd at NYU commencement, Swift didn’t talk about her relationship with Alwyn, but she did reflect on dating in the spotlight. “Having the world treat my love life like a spectator sport in which I lose every single game was not a great way to date in my teens and 20s, but it taught me to protect my private life fiercely,” she said, more or less explaining her and Alwyn’s policy of Just Not Gonna Talk About It. (You can read the entire speech here.)

And while the couple may not open up much about their romantic relationship, their creative collaborations is something Joe Alwyn will comment on. (He’s credited on a few songs from her most recent albums.) “It wasn’t like, ‘It’s five o’clock, it’s time to try and write a song together,’” he said in a recent interview. “It came about from messing around on a piano, and singing badly, then being overheard, and being, like, ‘Let’s see what happens if we get to the end of it together.’”

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